Matintoleranse-testing

[Borge Fagerli]

Vi har nå fått tilbud om en ny og meget spesifikk matintoleranse-test fra Signet Laboratories i USA. Denne er tilgjengelig ved et nyopprettet laboratorium i Polen. Prisen er 470USD inkludert frakt, men da man kan sende opptil 4 prøver samtidig vil prisen kunne reduseres til 390USD.

Vedlagt brosjyre og de som er interessert i testing kan sende meg en mail.

Testen krever oppmøte i Oslo.

borge@myrevolution.no

[ubertass]

Oppmøte i oslo -.-

Dette er jo eit spennende tema som kanskje kan være verd å kaste eit par kroner på, hadde det bare vært eit par kroner. Småstiv pris..

[depex]

Lyst på begge. Spesielt lyst til å finne ut om jeg tåler tyske kakkerlakker. Biotek eier

[ubertass]

Begge ?

[kristine89]

Hvor nøyaktig er denne testen?

Jeg har masse problemer med magen, men har nettopp tatt en test til nesten 2000 kr, som egentlig var litt bortkastet! Skal ærlig innrømme at jeg er litt sketisk til slike tester, spesilet med en fatti student økonomi Men det hadde vært utrolig deilig å fått litt orden og styr på denne magen!

[Borge Fagerli]

Dette er en ganske ny metode og har aldri tidligere vært tilgjengelig i Europa.

Last ned pdf-dokumentet i første innlegg. Jeg kan også kopiere inn en Q&A fra en anerkjent ernærings-spesialist, Dr Scot Lewey (thefooddoc.com)

Food intolerance and sensitivity reactions that are not due to an allergy:

Certain foods, additives and chemicals are capable of triggering immune reactions that are not due to allergies. Chemicals mediators released by the immune system are capable of producing a variety of body reactions and symptoms. Avoiding foods that produce such reactions is suppose to resolve or at least significantly improve symptoms resulting from eating those foods. Mediator release (MRT) testing measures the release of chemical mediators from white blood cells and platelets in response to specific foods, additives or chemicals. Such chemical reactions presumably indicate sensitivity to these foods or additives.

Principles of commercially available mediator release testing (MRT):

Commercially available mediator release testing (MRT, Signet Diagnostic Corporation, www.nowleap.com) is based on measuring in the blood the reaction of various immune mediator chemicals released into in response to a food or chemical to which you have become sensitive or intolerant. The result is that when exposed to such foods or chemicals your blood cells release various chemicals that cause an alteration of the ratio of solids (cells) to liquid (serum) in your blood that can be measured. The white blood cells and platelets shrink and the volume of the liquid increases. The degree of change can be measured and reported as mild or moderate to severe corresponding with the degree of sensitivity to that particular food, additive or chemical.

Test results of 150 foods and chemicals combined with elimination diet and counseling:

A panel of 150 food and chemicals (123 foods and 27 chemicals) is available. The foods or chemicals producing abnormal reactions are summarized in color tables provided along with a comprehensive report containing a result's based specific elimination diet plan supplemented with several hours of personalized counseling from a dietician.

Conditions benefited by MRT testing include migraines, IBS, fatigue and fibromyalgia:

Signet markets the testing for several conditions based on limited published research combined with their extensive clinical experience and patient testimonials. They claim success with reducing or eliminating a myriad of symptoms or conditions. These include migraines, headaches, autistic behavior, anxiety, depression, ADD, sinus and ear, nose and throat problems, irritable bowel syndrome, vomiting syndromes, Celiac, chronic stomachaches, bladder problems, fibromyalgia, arthritis, eczema, hives, and chronic fatigue syndrome.

Skeptical doctor and frustrated patients look for answers:

Initially, I was skeptical about MRT. However, I began advocating it several months ago because many of my patients had ongoing symptoms or findings that suggested an ongoing food intolerance or sensitivity but the testing available to us could not tell us what food or foods may be a problem. After reviewing the available research data I concluded MRT testing had adequate scientific basis to recommend it as an option to those who were interested and would consider making dietary changes based on the results.

Expert food allergy doctor and patients find MRT testing helpful and worthwhile:

So far, my experience is that most of those who have undergone the testing and implemented dietary changes as a result have noted significant improvements in a variety of digestive and non-digestive symptoms. I have also noted some very interesting patterns in people with other allergies. There appears to be a strong correlation with food-pollen cross reactions, more commonly known as the oral allergy syndrome (OAS). I am following this systematically and hope to report my observations formally in the future.

Previously available testing and diet interventions fail to provide relief in some patients:

All of my patients who have decided to undergo MRT testing have already been tested for Celiac disease and most have had food allergy testing as well as both upper and lower endoscopy exams with biopsies. All also had already tried dietary interventions. Some have had tests that confirmed one or more food allergies, Celiac disease or gluten sensitivity or have presence of mast cell enterocolitis; eosinophilic esophagitis, gastroenteritis or colitis; or lymphocytic enteritis. Though most had some improvement with dietary interventions based on their previous tests, many had ongoing symptoms with or without inconclusive or negative food allergy testing.

[Borge Fagerli]

OBS!

4 Test-kits er nå på vei til meg og jeg vil ha dem i midten av neste uke.

Jeg skal ta en selv, og det er to andre som er interesserte, men jeg må ha en konkret påmelding på mail - og her er det første mann prinsippet som gjelder!

Dette er også kritisk fordi det er begrenset kapasitet, og jeg må bestille dato for testene vi sender inn. Får vi ikke kjørt testene da kan de ikke brukes!

Oppdatert pris, siden vi kan sende 4 samtidig og dermed spare frakt: 2500,-

Informasjon om Signet MRT testen:

Q. Is MRT accurate?
A. A blinded peer reviewed scientific study showed MRT to have the highest level of accuracy of any food sensitivity blood test (94.5% sensitivity and 91.8% specificity).

Q. What’s the difference between MRT and other tests for food sensitivities?
A. There are a few different tests available that are intended to identify sensitive foods. They are: IgG (ELISA or RAST), ALCAT, and LRA by Elisa-Act (not to be confused with ELISA IgG). Without understanding some basics, it’s impossible to understand how one is superior to the others and how they compare.

The Basics:

Food sensitivities make a person feel sick because the immune system reacts to foods and causes the release of chemicals called mediators (such as histamine, prostaglandins, cytokines, etc.) from white blood cells. It’s the mediators that cause the inflammation, pain, and other symptoms associated with food sensitivities. In fact, food sensitivity is a very complex reaction by our immune system. There are many different cells that have different profiles of mediators, many mechanisms that cause mediators to be released, and of course, many different mediators.

The thing that makes food sensitivities complicated is that there are various ways the immune system can respond in hypersensitivity. Because there are different ways the immune system can respond, there are different approaches researchers have tried to identify reactive foods and chemicals.

ELISA IgG: This test quantifies how much IgG you are producing to a specific food, with the assumption that high levels of IgG are only a bad thing. There is a specific type of immune reaction called Type 3 Hypersensitivity that can involve IgG or another antibody called IgM.

When IgG is involved in triggering mediator release, this testing will be very helpful. Unfortunately, there are three very serious limitations of IgG testing:

1. High levels of IgG can be either good (suppressing of an immune response) or bad (causing an immune response). But you cannot tell which is good IgG or which is bad IgG through this testing. Having a high level may actually be good, and not bad.

2. IgG only plays a minor role in IBS, migraine, and fibromyalgia. Instead, research shows that Type 4 Hypersensitivity is the primary type of reaction. Type 4 Hypersensitivity doesn’t involve IgG or any other antibodies.

3. IgG testing cannot identify reactions to chemicals like food additives. It’s clearly documented that food chemicals play a very important role in provoking symptoms in many conditions. If you cannot identify these reactions, you could very well be missing very important information that can impact your health.

How MRT Compares to IgG: There are a number of advantages of MRT over any form of IgG testing.

MRT is an endpoint test, meaning that all the immune based adverse reactions end up causing mediator release. So MRT tests for the release of mediators without caring about the mechanism. In fact, by testing for mediators which are the endpoint of immune reactions, MRT is able to take into account the actions of all mechanisms, whether they are antibodies or other, because all of them ultimately cause white blood cells to release mediators. MRT is able to account for a much wider array of reactions than the relatively simple IgG testing. In addition, MRT is able to identify reactions to chemicals. Overall, MRT is more accurate and useful clinically.

The ALCAT Test: The ALCAT Test was invented and patented by the same person who invented and patented MRT, Dr. Mark Pasula. The two technologies are similar, yet separately patented, which means there is a unique difference. The main difference between the two tests is in terms of accuracy and reliability. Side by side studies have shown MRT to be more accurate (higher sensitivity and specificity) and to have higher split sample reproducibility than ALCAT. It is a good, but older method that has been replaced by the newer, better technology used in MRT.

LRA by ELISA-Act: This test is somewhat of a mystery as to what it actually measures and how that correlates with mediator release and with an involvement in IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia, or other foodsensitivity
related conditions. The company that invented it makes claims about its accuracy, reproducibility, and validity, but in fact there are no actual third party studies that confirm any of their claims. Nor have their own studies related to the same been published. In other words, there are no
published studies that support their claims. In addition, the actual methodology is not described or validated in any peer reviewed publications, yet they claim that it is. Therefore it’s not possible to
assess and compare its strengths and weaknesses to MRT.

MRT: The main difference between MRT and ELISA-Act is that of scientific validation. There are studies published on MRT that clearly show the methodology, accuracy, ability to discriminate between healthy and sick populations, etc. They clearly tie the relationship of what MRT is measuring to the physiological basis of adverse food reactions in IBS, migraine, fibromyalgia, and other foodsensitivity-related conditions.

Q. How does MRT work?
A. MRT is an indirect method of accurately measuring mediator release. MRT does this by measuring changes in the liquids to solids ratio of your blood after your blood has been exposed and incubated with the test substance. It accounts for all reactions by your immune cells. This is done as an indicator that your immune cells have released chemical mediators such as histamines and others. Significant reactions are broken into either Reactive (Red), or Moderately Reactive (Yellow) categories and insignificant reactions (Green) are placed in the Low-Reactive category.

All measurements are made using the most accurate method of measurement (Ribbon technology) currently available.

Q. How come the test shows I’m reactive to something I have never eaten?
A. There are 4 possible explanations as to why the test would show reactivity to an infrequently or never-consumed food:

1. Genetics. It has been shown that immune-based food reactions can have a genetic component and can be passed on from generation to generation.

2. Cross reactivity. Your immune system identifies and differentiates antigenic substances based upon their molecular structure. Foods from the same food families often share similar protein structures and can sometimes cross-react if tested. Another situation that can contribute to cross reactivity is when a reactive chemical binds with a non-reactive food and causes that food to be identified immunologically as a reactive substance.

3. Hidden source of the food. Many foods can be found as additives under different names. For example, monosodium glutamate (MSG) can be found in an ingredient list as monosodium glutamate, MSG, natural flavoring, or hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP). It is common for these items to be
hidden in prepared foods. The report sections on Hidden Sources of Test Substances, and Chemicals and Additives can help reveal hidden forms of the items you need to avoid.

4. False positive test result. Even the most accurate laboratory tests can give some false readings. The overall accuracy of MRT as determined in a peer reviewed blinded study is roughly 93% leaving a small margin of potential error in the reading, that can show up as either false negatives
(which means a substance is actually reactive, but the test says its non-reactive), or false positives (which means the test says its reactive, but it is really not).

Q. I know that I am allergic to a particular food but MRT said I wasn’t. Why?
A. MRT identifies foods and food substances involved in food sensitivities, and is the most comprehensive blood test for these types of reactions. If you know that you are allergic to a particular food, it most likely won’t show up on MRT because mast cells, the main cells involved in allergic
reactions are found in tissue, not in the circulation. MRT measures the circulating cells which tend to be involved in sensitivities.

If your “allergy” is not really an allergy, but rather a food intolerance, that also will probably not show up on your MRT results because the symptoms are not triggered by an immune system reaction. In any case, if you know a particular food does not agree with you, the best thing to do is avoid it.

Q. How can I be reactive to this food; I eat it all the time and it’s a healthy food?
A. One of the problems with food sensitivities is that any food or food substance that you consume can potentially be a culprit. Foods that you eat regularly are even more likely to be causing a problem. Food sensitivities often develop over time in a gradual manner, and this causes you to become accustomed to a certain amount of suffering which you experience as “normal”. When you eat reactive substances in this situation, it may not cause a dramatic reaction, relatively speaking.

However, if you avoid your reactive foods for a while and then reintroduce them, you may experience a very pronounced reaction. Then you know that food is not good for you, no matter what the other health benefits of the food may be.

Foods such as garlic, fresh vegetables, or fresh fish, provide important nutrients and under normal circumstances promote health. However, any food that triggers your immune system to react against your body is not healthy for you, even if it contains some health benefits for others.

Q. Why are milk, cottage cheese, and yogurt different in reactivity?
A. While milk, cottage cheese, yogurt, and other cheese are all in the same food family (dairy), the antigenic protein structure varies considerably as the milk changes into a new product. That is why
some people cannot tolerate milk, but can tolerate yogurt or certain cheeses. However, a good rule of thumb is that if you are reactive to two or more foods from the same food family, you should avoid the entire family.

Food Sensitivities

Q. What is the difference between food allergy, food sensitivity, and food intolerance?
A. Food allergies, food sensitivities, and food intolerance are often used interchangeably and inappropriately. In fact, there is active debate in scientific and medical circles as to how to define and use these three terms. The general consensus is that food allergy can be defined as any adverse reaction to food that involves our immune system. This further breaks down into two kinds of reactions, food allergy, and food sensitivity. Food intolerance does not involve the immune system.

Food Allergy
Perhaps the best-known example of food allergy is also its least common – and most dangerous. Anaphylactic shock is a severe hyper-reaction of the immune system caused by a massive release of histamine and other chemical mediators from certain types of white blood cells called mast cells and basophils. Not everyone with food allergies experiences anaphylaxis though. The immunological triggering mechanism that causes the mast cells (and basophils) to release their chemicals is called IgE and is a very well understood phenomenon. This underlying mechanism is considerably different from the triggering mechanisms found in food sensitivities. The most common foods implicated in food allergy are peanuts, other nuts, shellfish, or foods containing sulfites. People with anaphylaxis can die within minutes if they ingest even one molecule of their allergic food. Food allergy affects about 1-2% of the population and accounts for only a small percentage of all adverse food reactions. Most immediate reactions are not life threatening but do produce uncomfortable symptoms. People suffering from food allergy can usually identify what foods they are allergic to without the help of a doctor or testing. This is because the reaction occurs every time and shortly after they eat their allergic food.

Food Sensitivity
Food sensitivity (also known as delayed food allergy) is quite another story. Delayed reactions manifest in many different ways as they can affect any organ system in the body and can take from 45 minutes to several days for symptoms to become apparent. The delayed onset of symptoms and complex physiological mechanisms involved in food sensitivities make them an especially difficult puzzle to try to solve either on your own or with most laboratory serum tests. In fact, food sensitivities often go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. The treatments prescribed usually provide only temporary relief that mask the symptoms instead of addressing the root cause of the problem.


Food Intolerance
Food intolerance can produce some digestive symptoms that are similar to food sensitivity but it doesn’t involve the immune system. Instead, when the food in question is consumed, it is not properly digested and begins to ferment inside the gut. The best example of food intolerance is lactose intolerance. This condition is characterized by bloating, loose stools or diarrhea, and gas. Lactose intolerance is caused by an inability of the body to produce enough of the enzyme lactase, which breaks down lactose, the primary sugar found in milk. Avoiding milk products or supplementing the diet with lactase enzyme is the best way for a person with lactose intolerance to overcome the problem.

Q. Why do I have food sensitivities; how did I get them?
A. Researchers do not have all the answers to this question and there is still much to be learned about how food sensitivities develop. The following are the most widely accepted factors that can help cause food sensitivities.

1. Poor digestion.
2. Unbalanced gut flora
3. Chronic stress/severe trauma
4. Immune system overload
5. Genetics
6. Toxic-induced loss of oral tolerance (overexposure to chemicals)

Q. How do food sensitivities cause symptoms?

A. The symptoms that result when we have food sensitivities are caused by the release of toxic chemicals such as histamine from immune cells.

The table below describes the sequence of events involved in developing symptoms from food sensitivities.

Step 1 Identification
Step 2 Call in the Troops
Step 3 Chemical Warfare
Step 4 Symptoms

• Immune system identifies foods and food substances as foreign
• Immune & non-immune mechanisms (IgG, IgA, IgM, etc.) trigger immune cells to attack
• Chemicals such as histamine are released from immune cells to destroy invaders
• Tissue inflammation and damage occurs leading to symptoms

Copyright 2008 Signet Diagnostic Corporation

[Chris]

Me want!!

Men vi slipper i tappe blod selv, eller?

[Borge Fagerli]

Det er et stikk i fingeren. Jeg kan ha et ambulanse-team stående beredt med noen liter plasma hvis blodtapet skulle bli for stort.

Det er nå bare en test ledig!

[depex]

Kan jeg tappe blod hvis jeg vil?

[depex]

Fatter heller ikke hvordan de får målt på så lite blod. Ser egentlig for meg at de tar et glass med blod og slipper en banan nedi og ser hvor mange ml den går oppover. Kanskje litt problematisk på 150 ting

[Chris]

Det er et stikk i fingeren. Jeg kan ha et ambulanse-team stående beredt med noen liter plasma hvis blodtapet skulle bli for stort.

Det er nå bare en test ledig!

Lurer på hvor mange pixler det er i 1 liter plasma

[depex]

Da har jeg fått resultater på testen og det er flere overensstemmelser med matvarer jeg har mistenkt, samt noen nye overraskelser. Det er også kraftig utslag på endel ting, inkludert løk som jeg spiser til 4 måltider om dagen. Og på noen vanlige tilsetningsstoffer. Anbefaler denne testen på det sterkeste. Spent på å se de neste ukene hvordan dette blir når jeg får kutta ut endel ting.

[ubertass]

Gidder du å poste alle resultater ? Hadde vert artig å sett ;D

[Borge Fagerli]

Her er et lite utdrag av en av testene som ble gjort den dagen (ikke depex). Det interessante er at jeg satte opp en diett basert på metabolsk typebestemmelse, der han var såkalt sympatisk dominant, langsom oksidativ. Dette tilsier at han skal spise mindre fett og mer karbohydrater, og proteinkilder basert på hvitt og magert kjøtt/fisk - dvs kylling, torsk osv... og unngå rødt kjøtt. Det viste seg altså at han har en intoleranse for rødt kjøtt. Vi fant også ut at han hadde melkeintoleranse, og reagerte på blant annet tomat, appelsin og kaliumnitritt. Sistnevnte er tilsetningsstoff i røkt kjøtt og spekemat - noe han spiser på daglig basis.

Etter å ha kuttet ut de høy-reaktive matvarene begynner han allerede å føle seg bedre. Spesielt merket han det på magen, han har hatt store mageproblemer og gått til lege i et par år uten at de har funnet ut av det...

[R-gear]

Blir det en nye runder med testing?? blir prisen fremdeles 2500?

[Hella]

Lurer på hvor mange pixler det er i 1 liter plasma

ÜBERLOL!

[ubertass]

Frisøren og eg er egentlig veldig gira på å ta testen(e?).

Eg sliter med å komme til oslo for å få tatt blodprøver ei stund fremover (militæret osv.. -.-), men frisøren skal til oslo 29. juli og blir der til og med 5.
Hadde satt pris på om ho kunne blitt stukket og testa i perioden

[Star]

Frisøren og eg er egentlig veldig gira på å ta testen(e?).

Eg sliter med å komme til oslo for å få tatt blodprøver ei stund fremover (militæret osv.. -.-), men frisøren skal til oslo 29. juli og blir der til og med 5.
Hadde satt pris på om ho kunne blitt stukket og testa i perioden

Jeg kan ta prøve jeg. Men tror ikke dere må komme hit til Oslo altså. Eller hva Børge?

Jeg er helt sikker på at dere kan ordne dette ved at Børge sender prøveglassene til dere med ferdig utfylte skjema og at dere hører på legekontoret om sekretær der kan ta prøvene. Så sender dere etter instruksjoner til oppgitt adresse.

Sparer litt kostnader da

[Borge Fagerli]

Det kan være mulig, men det er spesialfrakt med TNT Express og meget viktig at testen tas etter kl 12 på dagen og umiddelbart sendes til laboratoriet i Polen. Prøvene må være der tidlig neste dag for analysene, og det må bookes tid på forhånd.

Fraktkostnadene for 2 personer vil bli litt høyere, tilsvarende 2800kr pr person totalpris i stedet for 2500kr.

Jeg flytter jo til utlandet den 22.juli, så om dette er av interesse kan jeg enten sende 2 testkits til dere, eller så kan vi arrangere en ny runde her - jeg har minst 1 person til som er interessert i den testen. Hvis R-gear også ønsker å ta den har vi 4stk og en totalpris på 2500.

Solveig er vel bortreist hele denne perioden så vi må finne en annen sykepleier som kan ta prøvene, men det ordner seg sikkert

[Star]

Det kan være mulig, men det er spesialfrakt med TNT Express og meget viktig at testen tas etter kl 12 på dagen og umiddelbart sendes til laboratoriet i Polen. Prøvene må være der tidlig neste dag for analysene, og det må bookes tid på forhånd.

Fraktkostnadene for 2 personer vil bli litt høyere, tilsvarende 2800kr pr person totalpris i stedet for 2500kr.

Jeg flytter jo til utlandet den 22.juli, så om dette er av interesse kan jeg enten sende 2 testkits til dere, eller så kan vi arrangere en ny runde her - jeg har minst 1 person til som er interessert i den testen. Hvis R-gear også ønsker å ta den har vi 4stk og en totalpris på 2500.

Solveig er vel bortreist hele denne perioden så vi må finne en annen sykepleier som kan ta prøvene, men det ordner seg sikkert

Jeg er tilbake i Oslo i uke 30 en gang jeg.

[R-gear]

Jeg er med jeg!! Eneste det står på er at det passer med jobben

[Borge Fagerli]

22.juli er onsdag i uke 30, så vi må i tilfelle ta testen på mandag eller tirsdag.

[ubertass]

Børge, kan du sjekke om det går å sende florø - > Whereeverinpolen innen tida ? =]

[Al-xJ]

Jeg vil veldig gjerne ta en slik test, men det blir for dyrt å måtte fly ned til Oslo for å ta den

Men om det er mulig å sende prøver til Bodø derimot..

[fightergirl]

Jeg er i Oslo-området i uke 30..
nærmere bestemt fr.stad, så hvis jeg kommer meg inn til oslo er det da plass for meg?

[Borge Fagerli]

Så langt jeg kan se er det ledig en til deg også, ja...

Det er jeg som står oppført som ansvarlig for disse testene og har fått tilsendt testkitsene fra laboratoriet, så jeg er litt skeptisk til å begynne å sende ut i hytt og pine. Helst ville jeg i så fall sendt tester for 4 personer av gangen, da en pakke inneholder dette antall testkits.

Brage: Jeg har snakket med TNT og de har kun opphenting i de største byene. Utenom dette er det Posten som henter og bringer inn til deres terminaler, og da måtte man legge på en dag ekstra... Det går dessverre ikke.

[ubertass]

Det var det eg regna med...

Men hadde som sagt vert kjekt å fått testa frisøren

[fightergirl]

[quote=Borge Fagerli;66040]Så langt jeg kan se er det ledig en til deg også, ja...quote]

snakket med mor om dette, men hun er jo så forelska i alle disse legene i histen og pisten.. kan sikkert ta tusen prøver uten at de finner en dritt!

menmen, ikke noe å gjøre noe med, får heller prøve eliminasjonsmetoden til og begynne med..
Må si fra meg plassen Børge!

[Chris]

Jeg er med i uke 30, om det enda er en plass ledig.

[Flexernnnnnn]

"Jeg flytter jo til utlandet den 22.juli"

Heisann Borge Fagerli, STOR FAN AV KONSEPTET DITT, du har virkelig forandret "bloat" og vannretasjonen min til de grader og subcutant vann har blitt redusert etter at jeg har kjørt "livsstils" endringen din....TAKKKKKKKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Men vedrørende matintoleranse testen.... hvordan ligger det ann med køsystemet, med tanke på at du forlater moderlandet den 22,juli?

[Borge Fagerli]

Takk for det

Det kommer an på om vi får Star eller noen andre til å ta blodprøvene (må tas mandag 20. eller tirsdag 21. mellom kl 12 og 14), og vi har vel 3stk som er interesserte nå, skulle gjerne hatt en til for å fylle kvoten.

[R-gear]

hva er greia med den 12-14?? Må alle ta på samme dag eller er det sånn att hvis du er med i ett kull på fire, så kan du ta enten dag 1 eller dag 2??

[ubertass]

Takk for det

Det kommer an på om vi får Star eller noen andre til å ta blodprøvene (må tas mandag 20. eller tirsdag 21. mellom kl 12 og 14), og vi har vel 3stk som er interesserte nå, skulle gjerne hatt en til for å fylle kvoten.

Går det ikkje ann å ta det UTEN deg da, Børge, etter den 29. ?
Vil veldig gjerne ha testa frisøren, som sagt.

[Chris]

hva er greia med den 12-14?? Må alle ta på samme dag eller er det sånn att hvis du er med i ett kull på fire, så kan du ta enten dag 1 eller dag 2??

Antar at 12-14 den 22. er at Børge skal reise. Og etter det jeg har forstått så må alle 4 ta den enten dag 21 eller 22 ettersom prøvene må sendes ekspress over natten til Polen.

[Borge Fagerli]

Kravspesifikasjonene på testen sier at den må utføres etter kl 12. For at TNT Express skal få levert pakken til laboratoriet dagen etterpå må den hentes senest kl 15.

Eneste mulighet for meg blir mandag 20.juli, tirsdag er det flyttevask og overlevering av leiligheten min til huseier.

Brage: Nei, det er jeg som er ansvarshavende for disse prøvene, de kan ikke forlates her eller sendes rundt i landet. Dessverre. Det kan imidlertid være mulighet for at andre får lisens for disse prøvene her i Oslo ved en senere anledning. Når jeg kommer tilbake hit i September/Oktober er det også mulig å sette opp testing.

[ubertass]

Tenkte om du kunne lagt igjen en hos solveig ellerno, men da prøver vi igjen i september/oktober.
Si ifra i god tid a

[Hella]

Eg er òg interessert i å ta ein test på eit seinare tidspunkt, berre hugs å varsle i god tid i førvegen.

[Oaz]

Jeg også Fortsatt 2500?

[illmatic]

Jeg er også interessert i å ta en slik test neste gang det blir mulig..!